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GarethTnash Groupie

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| Posted: 06 August 2010 at 5:44am | IP Logged
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Hello,
I have Helicon Ape running on some of my sites however on the original sites the links are relative to the document and not the root.
as a result my links look like this -
http://www.hampshirejobsonline.co.uk/search~jobs-in~~keywords~~RegID~Hampshire~sector~Accountancy~SID~871.htm
I have a new project that I am working on, which can be seen below. This project uses links relative to the site root.
http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk/default.asp
I would like the links to be rewritten like this if possible
http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk/flowers/ID-C2/Beautiful-Flowers-For-Birthdays-delivered-by-Bortsmouth-Florist
or worst case scenario like -
http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk/flowers/ID-C2/Beautiful-Flowers-For-Birthdays-delivered-by-Bortsmouth-Florist.htm
currently they look like -
http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk/flowers.asp?ID=C2&Beautiful-Flowers-For-Birthdays-delivered-by-Bortsmouth-Florist
grateful if you could advise how to write the syntax for this please.
Many thanks
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Anton Admin Group

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Please try to use the following code:
RewriteEngine on
RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} ^ID=([^&]+)&(.+)$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^flowers\.asp$ flowers/ID-%1/%2? [NC,R=301,L]
RewriteRule flowers/ID-([^/]+)/(.+)$ flowers.asp?ID=$1&$2 [NC,L]
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Anton
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GarethTnash Groupie

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| Posted: 06 August 2010 at 6:36am | IP Logged
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Thanks Anton,
Quick question, I want to rewite for all pages not just the flowers.asp one exception to that though is that I have an amin directory where I dont want any of the URLs to be rewritten.
Thanks for your help in advance
GTN
P.S - Hope you are well?
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GarethTnash Groupie

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Also - sorry the current syntax reads like so -
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# Helicon Ape version 3.0.0.40
SetEnvIfNoCase request_uri ^/(?!em/|js/|wm/).*$ mod_linkfreeze
#LinkFreezeRule ~~~ asp=htm ^(?!/?search\.asp).*$ [ MoveExt ]
LinkFreezeRule ~~~ asp=htm [ MoveExt ]
# Fixing search by mod_rewrite
#RewriteEngine on
#RewriteRule ^search\.htm$ /search.asp [NC,L]"
Please could you show me what to change
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Anton Admin Group

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Here's the config to rewrite all asp requests. Is it ok, or you have other patterns to be rewritten? If yes, please give examples for them.
RewriteEngine on
RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} ^ID=([^&]+)&(.+)$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^([^/.]+)\.asp$ $1/ID-%1/%2? [NC,R=301,L]
RewriteRule ([^/.]+)/ID-([^/]+)/(.+)$ $1.asp?ID=$1&$2 [NC,L]
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Anton
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GarethTnash Groupie

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Sorry Anton, that isn't working - it just redirects everything to -
http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk/flowers/ID-flowers/flowers and we get the 404 error
What I am trying to achieve(for all web pages except any in the directory amin) is -
? becomes /
& becomes /
= becomes -
.asp is removed
So as an example
http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk/flowers.asp?ID=C2&Beautiful-Flowers-For-Birthdays-delivered-by-Bortsmouth-Florist
becomes -
http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk/flowers/ID-C2/Beautiful-Flowers-For-Birthdays-delivered-by-Bortsmouth-Florist
the area that has changed being -
.asp?ID=C2&
to
/ID-C2/
Hope that makes sense?
I guess I still need to include a line like -
SetEnvIfNoCase request_uri ^/(?!amin/).*$ mod_linkfreeze
to stop APE from rewritting web pages within the amin directory
Appreciate any help you can offer -
Many thanks
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GarethTnash Groupie

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Hello,
If I try using this -
"# Helicon Ape version 3.0.0.40
SetEnvIfNoCase request_uri ^/(?!amin/).*$ mod_linkfreeze #LinkFreezeRule ~~~ asp=htm ^(?!/?search\.asp).*$ [ MoveExt ] LinkFreezeRule //- asp=htm [ MoveExt ]
# Fixing search by mod_rewrite #RewriteEngine on #RewriteRule ^search\.htm$ /search.asp [NC,L]"
When I click on the following URL -
http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk/flowers.asp?ID=C1&Beautiful-Flowers-For-Anniversairies-delivered-by-Bortsmouthflorist
it redirects me to
http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk/flowers/Beautiful-Flowers-For-Anniversairies-delivered-by-Bortsmouth-florist/ID-C1.htm
However there I get a 404 error which reads -
Requested URL http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk:80/flowers/Beautiful-Flowers-For-Anniversairies-delivered-by-Bortsmouth-florist/.asp?C1=&flowers=Beautiful&Flowers-For-Anniversairies-delivered-by-Bortsmouth-florist=ID Physical Path D:\vhosts\netsolva.co.uk\subdomains\nfd\httpdocs\flowers\Beautiful-Flowers-For-Anniversairies-delivered-by-Bortsmouth-florist\.asp Logon Method Anonymous Logon User Anonymous
So it looks to me as the physical path is incorrect.
Please help, I'm on a timeline with this project, and get SEO friendly URLs is priority number 1!!
Thanks Anton
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Anton Admin Group

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Sorry for my misunderstanding...
I guess you were trying to apply mod_linkfreeze to resolve you task and I offered you a mod_rewrite solution.
Let's try to fix your mod_linkfreeze config:
SetEnvIfNoCase request_uri ^/(?!amin/).*$ mod_linkfreeze
LinkFreezeRule ~~~ asp=htm [ MoveExt ]
But this will give you http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk/flowers~ID~C2~Beautiful-Flowers-For-Birthdays-delivered-by-Bortsmouth-Florist.htm
Is it ok? Please try it.
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Anton
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GarethTnash Groupie

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Thanks Anton, is there anyway of getting -
LinkFreezeRule //- asp=htm [ MoveExt ]
instead of -
LinkFreezeRule ~~~ asp=htm [ MoveExt ]
Thanks
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GarethTnash Groupie

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I've been tasked with making the URL appear as neat as possible so like
domainname/page/parameter1-value/parameter2-value
instead of
domainname~page~parameter1~value~parameter2~value.htm
Please advise - my client is not very happy with me 
thank you
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Anton Admin Group

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You see, you can't use "-" as a replacement character a it is used in your URLs and mod_linkfreeze can't distinguish them.
Slashes "/" in its turn may cause your css/js/images to break because it will look like you've changed you folders structure and some
relative links may break.
So, theoretically it's possible to have any kind of replacement characters, but some may interfere with the chars in your URLs and some are
more safe, like ~ for example.
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Anton
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I've re written the URLs for CSS/JS?images etc so that they arre all root specific -"/styles/style1.css" as opposed to "styles/style1.css"
So that it can work with slashes, but it is failing, client really wants it to look like -
domainname/page/parameter1-value/parameter2-value
I can potentially remove the "-"s in the URLs if needbe, but would need to replace " " with something, perhaps "+"?
I can re write the url parameters sent, once I know how to achieve the base that the client is asking for..
Please advise - thank you
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Anton Admin Group

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Ok, then (if you remove the -s from the URLs) you can try this config:
LinkFreezeRule //- asp=htm [ MoveExt ]
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Anton
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GarethTnash Groupie

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Sorry still getting a 404 error -
| Requested URL |
http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk:80/flowers/.asp?C1=&flowers=ID |
| Physical Path |
D:\vhosts\netsolva.co.uk\subdomains\nfd\httpdocs\flowers\.asp
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click on Anniversairy in the "By Event" nav lefthand column---
takes you too http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk/flowers/ID-C1.htm where you get the 404 error?
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GarethTnash Groupie

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Another quick question, why is the first parameter moved to the last position once rewritten?
If I move the most important name value pair to the last part of the query string, the following works "
LinkFreezeRule --- asp=htm [ MoveExt ]"
as the following URL works fine -
http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk/flowers-Beautiful-Flowers-For-Anniversairies-delivered-by-Bortsmouth-florist-ID-C1.htm
but the one below seems to fail because of the '--' before ID
http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk/flowers-Beautiful-Flowers-For-Birthdays-delivered-by-Bortsmouth-Florist--ID-C2.htm
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GarethTnash Groupie

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| Posted: 10 August 2010 at 3:34am | IP Logged
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Good morning,
I still can't get this to work.
for instance if I have a web page called 'contact-us.asp' with a querystring of '?Bortsmouth=Florist' following it, the page should go to
http://nfd.netsolva.co.uk/Contact-us-Bortsmouth-Florist.htm
where I get a 404 error message.
I really need to get this resolved today using slashes '/' and hypens '-' not by using ~
Please advise whether this can be done using APE, or whether i need to look for an alternative ISAPI rewriter.
thank you
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Anton Admin Group

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We've found another solution to your issue with the help of which you'll be able to meet your client's reuqirements.
What you need is update to the latest build of Helicon Ape.
Then check in httpd.conf that mod_seo module (brand new module we'll make use of) is enabled.
Then comment out the LinkFreezeRule and put the following config into your .htaccess:
RewriteEngine on
RewriteBase /
SeoRule ^([^/.]+)\.asp\?ID=([^&]+)&(.+)$ $1/ID-$2/$3? [NC,L]
RewriteRule ([^/.]+)/ID-([^/]+)/(.+)$ $1.asp?ID=$1&$2 [NC,L]
This should work for root-relative links. If you have absolute links, I'll fix the config for you.
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Anton
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GarethTnash Groupie

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thanks Anton, that is great,
how do I "update to the latest build of Helicon Ape"?
will it effect the other sites that are currently running APE?
Is there any chance you can show me what needs to be done, if i give you remote server access?
thank you
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GarethTnash Groupie

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Hi Anton,
Have been trying to figure this out myself, but I'm confused -
I have the Server license.
From within APE Manager, i have selected Help > Check for updates, which takes me to -http://www.helicontech.com/download-ape.htm
the only two options that I see are the 45 day free trial and the freeware (for three sites) - which should I select?
Do I need to uninstall APE first?
Will installing the updated version overwrite all the existing sites (76) ISAPI rules?
Please advise - thank you
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Anton Admin Group

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I'll explain:
1. you don't need to uninstall old version.
2. download the one with 45-day trial (not Free).
3. Run it. It will update automatically and all the existing configs will remain intact.
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Anton
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